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Hey everybody, thanks for joining us.

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Happy Monday.

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Glad to have you with us
as we continue through the Gospel of John.

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In the fifth chapter, verse 30.

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We're going to get a good dose

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of John's version of the gospel today.

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And we'll do our best to talk through it.

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I will I will warn you that, well,
maybe you won't feel this way,

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but I will warn you that

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I think this is one of those sections
that can maybe feel a little repetitive.

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I'll try to read through them
and read through the first half,

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relatively quickly, and
then we'll come back and we'll discuss it.

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This verse 30, chapter five.

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This is Jesus speaking.

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I can do nothing on my own, as I hear
I judge, and my judgment is

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just because I seek to do not my own will,
but the will of him who sent me.

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If I testify about myself,
my testimony is not true.

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There is another who

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testifies on my behalf, and I know
that his testimony to me is true.

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You sent messengers to John,
and he testified to the truth.

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Not that I accept such human testimony,
but I say these things that you

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may be saved.

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He was a burning and shining lamp,

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and you were willing to rejoice
for a while in his light.

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But I have a testimony
greater than John's.

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The works that the father has given me to
complete the very works that I am doing.

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Testify on my behalf
that the father has sent me.

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And the father who sent me has himself
testified on my behalf.

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You have never heard his voice
or seen his form, and you do not have

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his word abiding in you,
because you do not believe in whom?

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In him whom he has sent.

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So we mentioned last week

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that Jesus has, in the Gospel of John,
the sort of, almost legal

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sounding arguments as, as if there's,
there's some kind of case being made.

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And here that's especially true
as we talk about testimony and testifying.

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And Jesus is essentially saying,

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I don't need to testify on my own behalf
for two reasons.

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Others have done that for me
and most importantly, my works.

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What I do tells that story.

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If you would listen,
and because you do not listen, it's in.

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It's an indication
that you don't know the truth,

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that you don't know
even the one who is the truth.

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He testifies on my behalf.

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He shows people who I am
because I do his work.

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But you don't believe in me.

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Therefore you haven't believed in him.

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And it's a relatively tight case, I think.

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Michael, though
it, as John is sometimes prone to do it.

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It circles a little bit.

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Yeah.

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Well, because there's an intended audience

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and I think it's easy for us to miss this
as we're going through a book like this.

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Because now the way that we do
these studies, we,

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we break it down into smaller segments
and we try to spend some time

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with each segment.

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And what that does really well is it
helps us get into it, give a sense for

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what's underneath the current and hear
a little bit of those deeper themes.

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But let let's get really clear here.

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It is not too far before I'm looking at
chapter five, verse 18 here. The.

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For this reason,

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the Jews were still seeking
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because not only was he
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but he was calling God his own father,
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Okay, so here Jesus does this healing.

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There's this invective against the Jews.

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Things are getting heated at this point.

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Now. We had this talk about the authority
of the Son of God.

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The hour is coming. Now here we are.

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We're verse 30, this witness,

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this that's
who is the authority who speaks to who.

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This is going to make even more sense
when we turn here

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in just a moment
to the last part of this text.

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But, but say, suffice it to say, up
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is Jesus is making a strong, strong case

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as to why some see him for who he is

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and why others, with the revelation of God
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are unable to hear God's voice
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that it is completely obfuscated for them,

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that they just do not understand
what God is doing.

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And Clint,

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this whole
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this whole talk about human testimony,
all of this is, is helping us lay

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a framework of understanding for the fact
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to know the revelation of Christ,
and they don't see it.

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And what John is doing for us
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that we shouldn't be surprised
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and understand and others will not.

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And especially when you remember that here
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company of people who have seen a miracle,
they've seen a sign.

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They've seen the thing that should testify
to who Jesus is.

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They don't understand it.

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for us to, to to conceive

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of how these different response
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I think that John obsessed is too strong
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the idea that those who should see who
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The religious people,
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who are Pharisees, those who have standing
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who pride themselves
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and on their awareness of God,
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who myths over and over and over again
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the story is influenced
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that Jesus does these things
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who he is, that are clear signs,
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of those who don't see
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They refuse.

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They have hardened hearts.

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so outspoken on the

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unity of God and Christ,
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but by definition, then
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They're missing what God is doing.

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And so I, I always think,
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but I don't know if it's a strong

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if it's if it is presented anywhere

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more strongly than John does.

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And I think it always gives pause
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tradition, who live in a church,
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And certainly that's not everyone,
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I think we should never get
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with the fact that Jesus fought primarily

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with people who were religious.

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Those were his most common and most,

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Fierce, violent enemies

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is the people who were sure
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and therefore they missed this
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that the people Jesus

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our our people.

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It's inside the circle,
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And I think, you know,
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Story, another thing to not forget
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And and we see that here, not in explicit
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who has himself testified on my behalf.

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and you don't have this word abiding in
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He has sent you that.

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This is clear language
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being within the circle,

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as you say, is we read words like this
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But what Jesus is saying
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the Son of God is that
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Well, if you don't believe Jesus,

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then you're not going to believe what he's
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If you don't see Jesus, as a light,
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that's behind
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So this is the amazing moment that is
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a kind of revelation that can only be seen
if you're willing to see it.

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And if you're not willing to see it,
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None of this makes sense.

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It is just doesn't follow
the formula, doesn't work out.

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But if you see it
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that Jesus is offering,
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Now, suddenly this begins to turn
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into an amazingly deep
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way to see God's work in the world.

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That that's really what's at stake here.

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And I think as people of faith,
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because we do live in the circle. Yeah.

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I mean, nobody is more blind
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And that describes here
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So, let's press on.

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Let's knock out the rest of this passage,
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Again, we'll circle back to it.

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But verse 39, you search the scriptures
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you have eternal life.

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And it is they that testify on my behalf.

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Yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

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I do not accept glory from human beings,

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but I know that you do not have
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I have come in my father's name,
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If another comes in his own name,
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How can you believe
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and do not seek the glory
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Do not think that I will accuse you
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Your accuser is Moses,
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If you believed Moses, you would
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But if you do not believe what he wrote,
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and I think you alluded to this
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you realize how deeply indebted Christian
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Again, when Jesus is saying things here

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that are not said this way
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In the other gospels, Jesus

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sort of dances around the question,
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And it seems as though the gospel authors
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to have to come
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But listen to the who.

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How come you don't accept the glory
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I'm not accusing you, Moses.

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Moses wrote about me.

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This is very high affirmation

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of what will become doctrines about Jesus.

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And you realize how constant and strong

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those are present strongly
those are presented in John.

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I have
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And so that's a fresh reminder.

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John, is he he's not holding anything back
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This is straight on Christian theology.

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And there's a lot of it.

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It's robust.

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And that comes in
lots of different reasons.

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And scholars are going to talk about,
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was either written in or received
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in that particular church,
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John.

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Of course, has a lot of theological chops,
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in other books,
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But let's not get into the weeds here,
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I think what we should do
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that Jesus is making here, which is to
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is that if the Jews who are the keepers
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we call the Old Testament, it would have
been to them their scriptures, right?

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Because there is no New Testament
at the time that Jesus is teaching this.

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So when he says that
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because you think that in them

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you have the eternal life,
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then what you're doing is
you should be preparing your hearts.

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You should be preparing the soil
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And yet the argument drops here
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how will you believe what I say?

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I might claim that's a mic drop
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Jesus essentially closing the door

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with a robust theological frame
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that his revelation
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which in the Gospel of John,
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Very well, there's zero doubt
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the the revelation
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if he is that,
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or you see a crazy person,
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what Jesus claims to be
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going to help us get some frame for
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you know, again, it's clear here
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and Jewish religious people,
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there's a
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that they come looking for truth.

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And yet when truth stands
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who who may be comfortable with the faith,

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who may occupy the circle of religion,

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humble ourselves in such a way?

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that when Jesus appears to us,

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when we see something of truth,

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we recognize it?

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It's cautionary. Here

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that the the very ones

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who are most adamant that they know
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are the farthest,
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that should give us all pause
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we might be in our own abilities
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those who have trusted their own
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the righteousness of God in this case,
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That don't miss the words here
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that are the works that the father
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I'm doing, testify on my behalf
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Jesus doesn't just say, have faith in me,
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Jesus in John.

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Now how many times are we?
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Are we going to see where his miraculous
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There's signs of who
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He's the full package.

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He shows us what is true

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and what is the thing
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He shows us that this kingdom that he is
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It's the people who are lost.

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It's the people who are least.

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norms and power that these things
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Jesus consistently
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as people of faith today,
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We're seeking to to know it more,
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but for that to live in us
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That the task then, is to orient

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ourselves towards how those scriptures
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so that our actions might be paired with
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Not that there are signs there.

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in the moments where we see divergence
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hope for the hopeless, Jesus
who proclaimed liberty for the captive,

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Jesus who proclaimed being found
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When we find ourselves tempted to say
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we're now straying from the revelation
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that this is a person, that
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should embody that in in our limited,
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We should embody that same so that others
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And I also think it's worth
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they lack, is what Jesus calls
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You do not have the love of God in you.

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In other words, they somehow stand outside
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that's not in keeping with this gospel.

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John loves the word love,
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that your hearts are closed
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The man who was healed on the Sabbath.

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You care more about the rule than you do
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these men's life and their stubborn
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the thing that he most notices in them
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is that they lack the love of God.

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Is our faith characterized
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we see through Christ from God?

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Is our life and our faith, defined

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by the kind of sacrificial love
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These men missed that,
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And I think that's a good call
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I think that'll be our last word
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Hopefully that word is encouraging,
maybe even challenging for you.

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If so, give it a like helps others
find this study in their own way

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as they study the book of John later on
and certainly subscribe.

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So you can stay with us as we continue
on breaking into chapter six tomorrow.

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Thanks, everybody.
