Hey, everybody.
Welcome back.
Thanks for being with us again as we continue through the Gospel of John,
kicking into the fourth chapter today.
An extended story that the first time, I think that we're going to see
John devote most of a chapter to a particular story.
John likes to do this.
He, he is a fan of long involved stories.
And then he usually works some wrinkles in and out of them as well.
So we may be on this one for a day or two or a couple days probably,
but we'll get into it today, starting with first verse of chapter four.
Going on here a little bit.
Now, when Jesus learned that the Pharisees
had heard Jesus is making and baptizing more disciples than John,
although it was not Jesus himself, but his disciples who baptized,
he left Judea and started back to Galilee, but he had to go through Samaria.
He came to the Samaritan city called seeker, near
the plot of ground that Jacob had given to his son Joseph.
Jacob's well was there, and Jesus,
tired out by his journey, was sitting by the well.
It was about noon.
A Samaritan woman came
to draw water, and Jesus said to her, could give me a drink.
His disciples had gone into the city to buy food.
The Samaritan woman said to him, how is it that you,
a Jew, ask a drink of me, a woman of Samaria?
Jews do not share things in common with Samaritans.
Jesus answered her, if you knew the gift of God
and who it is that is saying to you, give me a drink.
You would have asked him, and he would give you living water.
The woman said to him, sir, you have no bucket.
The well is deep.
Where do you get this living water?
Are you greater than our ancestor Jacob, who gave us the well,
and with his sons and flocks drank from it.
Oh, we stop there, Michael. So,
a little bit of background stuff here
that John is kind of telling us without needing to tell his readers.
Jesus is taking the direct route.
He is leaving,
Judea.
As attention has been drawn to him.
And we see this in all of the Gospels, when the the Jewish people,
particularly Jewish religious leaders,
get focused on Jesus, Jesus often relocates.
And that's the case here.
John adds a strange detail about the he's
getting more disciples than John, so maybe there's some discomfort happening.
We don't exactly.
I don't at least know exactly what that means.
But Jesus is going to return to Galilee and to get there, he's
going to take the direct route,
which takes him through Samaria, Samaria, and the Samaritans and Jews.
Though they share a lineage.
Had long before this had a split over some theological
and some genealogical differences, and the short version
is that they really don't deal with one another if they don't have to.
As a rule.
Jews and Samaritans held some animosity toward one another.
The Jews didn't trust the Samaritans.
They considered them kind of an impure part of the Jewish line.
Kind of,
kind of outside of the family.
Thus, the Samaritans rejected Jerusalem as the holy place.
And so there was tension here ethnically.
There was tension theologically, religiously.
And and Jesus finds himself in this place instead of going around.
Jesus, interestingly enough, goes straight through.
Yeah.
So the fact that Jesus has chosen this path where we're really not given
a real explanation for it, other than this language that we have here.
That he is, going because of,
Excuse me.
The text says verse four, he had to go through Samaria.
That that could be in the Gospel of John.
Purely logistical note.
It could be that Jesus, is, for sake of time
and energy, wine to make a three day journey instead of a longer day journey.
On the flip side of that, in the Gospel of John,
he has to go through Samaria may be a kind of pre awareness
of this encounter that he's going to have with this woman along the way.
This this is very importantly, Clint, a story
that we have framed now at the idea of happening around noon.
We see that here in verse six.
And of course, we've just had an encounter with Nicodemus that is at night.
And now we have an encounter with this woman that's happening,
where the sun is now high in the sky.
It's a well lit scene.
Another detail that the Gospel of John, shouldn't be missed.
Here, we just have this this sort of growing, budding moment
in which Jesus encounters a woman that he should have never met.
He's having a conversation with a person he should have never talked to.
He is exploring a history which is disagreed.
Disagreed upon by both parties.
At the end of the day,
and now there's going to be this cryptic language
that we've already seen about the idea of the water itself
and this utilizing a trope that we've already seen numerous times
here in the gospel where, like, how am I going to be born again?
Jesus will here.
If you can give me living water, how are you going to do that
when you don't even have a bucket?
Where where are you getting this water?
Where is your water coming from?
Another classic example where Jesus says a thing that is taken literally
but is intended to have multiple meanings of
of deepening spiritual world depth.
And here Jesus is of course going to come to answer this.
But before we get to those kinds of conversations,
I just want to note, isn't it fascinating
that this text begins in verse one right here with this language
about the baptizing, about about this moment of repentance,
about, in this case, the question of,
you know, Jesus baptizing more than John.
But it's not just Jesus, it's his disciples.
Well, baptism happens in water.
And it's striking that John pairs this with a story
about living water, about the fact that here it is.
Jesus who's offering you this woman something more than just water
that meets the eye.
And I think these are paired together for good reason.
So it's intentional.
John likes.
We've already seen this in the Nicodemus story, the preceding chapter.
John likes the idea of misunderstanding.
It's one of his primary techniques of storytelling.
And so here he has Jesus talking to a woman who misunderstands him.
She misunderstands why he would be talking to her.
Then she misunderstands what he's saying.
And, because this is an important story, because this is
an unusual story, it's gotten a lot of attention through the years.
Some scholars point out things like it would be
unusual for this woman to be coming to the well by herself.
This is well outside of town, as opposed to in town.
It it is conjectured by some,
or it is guessed by some that she is avoiding people and given
where the conversation is going to go, perhaps that's true.
Perhaps this woman wanted to be by herself, and Jesus,
finds himself confronting her in her very attempt
to avoid embarrassment or avoid others in the middle of the day,
which is the hottest part of the day there.
There are a lot of,
I think, a lot of places you can dig into these details and begin to ask,
what is John saying behind the things that we're reading?
So here, I think at this point in the story, it's important to know
that the woman is confused as to why Jesus would be speaking to her.
She's confused again by Jesus's words
that if he if she knew who
she was talking to, she would be asking him for water.
But a living water, a spring water would,
water that would come up naturally.
And so then this conversation continues.
Just a couple more verses here.
Then Jesus said to her, everyone who drinks the water
will be thirsty again, but those who drink of the water
that I will give them will never be thirsty.
The water that I give them will become a spring of water
gushing up to life eternal.
And then the woman said to him, sir, give me this water,
that I may never be thirsty, and have to keep coming back here to draw water.
So again, a misunderstanding.
Jesus says this thing that is spiritual in nature,
and just as in the case of Nicodemus,
she hears it as a thing that is physical in nature.
Well, that sounds great. I'd love to have that water.
Then I wouldn't have to come out to the
well in the middle of the day and get the bucket and do all the work.
Give me that water.
And what this does, I think in light of the rest of the story
we'll look at tomorrow, it sets the stage
for a reality
that Jesus has in mind a much deeper conversation.
And Jesus is leading this woman through this misunderstanding,
to consider something more spiritual than she's been aware of.
I think that maybe a modern reader struggles
to find some of the meaning of this text.
If we are unaware of the substantial
depth of the rivalry, the
the really unacceptable mingling that's happening in this conversation,
and I think the tone of the woman here in verse
11 really matters, because the two things that follow
both reflect a very critical, very judgmental kind of spirit.
The first is you don't have a bucket, the wells deep, you know,
who do you think you are?
You really think you're that great?
And then this idea, are you greater than our ancestor Jacob?
She's really sort of bowing back.
And she's launching into an argument that Jews and Samaritan
would have on, just the turn of a dime.
This is,
the kind of debate that we would have
in modern society, you know, are you a Coke person or a Pepsi person?
That's a trite example. But,
we can launch into a debate on that thing.
We've had that conversation before.
These are this is well-traveled ground for this woman.
And so I think that that matters as we turn our attention to the end
here in verse 15, because when she says, sir, give me this water
so that I may never be thirsty or have to keep coming here to draw water.
Clint, I think the reader is fairly able to read this with a few different senses.
I mean, on one hand
you could say that this is somewhat of a factual inquiry.
I would love to have the kind of water that you're describing.
It would be nice to not have to come here.
I suspect that John would have intended, and it would be a fair
reading of this text, that there's a decent amount
of sarcasm, in that tone, that this idea.
Sure. I'd love to not have to do any work.
And I think that this woman is in a moment
here of both saying a thing that could be an invitation
to deeper faith, and also could be saying a thing that represents her resisting it.
And both of those might exist at the same time in the text
on purpose, because of some of the stuff that's going to follow here.
And I think when I was young and as a child read stories like this.
Clint, I think I always read it in its most simplistic sense that, oh,
yeah, she's saying, I'd love to have that water,
but I think it is helpful to slow down when reading scripture
and to see that sometimes these characters are actually pushing back.
Sometimes they are resisting the thing that Jesus is revealing.
And this story is interesting for how it's going to continue.
But up to this point, I think that's a fair reading,
that there may be more layers to this than that.
I think this is one of those stories that
we can easily miss some of the details.
Jesus is breaking some significant social and religious convention here.
First of all, he's traveling through an area that most Jews would
avoid.
Secondly, he's speaking to a woman
which would have been questionable.
Third, and to add to that,
he's speaking to a woman who a Samaritan,
which would have been largely unacceptable for his people.
So Jesus is is breaking these norms.
And I think it's important.
And John is perhaps the most comfortable with this, with Jesus, who would do that,
who would not be hindered by the kind of social,
cultural, religious expectations that were placed on him.
And when we see that, that Jesus is willing to break those rules
or those guidelines to engage
this woman in a real conversation, we see that
she does not yet understand the depth of where that's going to go.
She thinks that Jesus is talking about water.
Either she really thinks that, or to your point, Michael, she's maybe
maybe pushing back with a little sarcasm,
but she does not yet understand
that the things that Jesus wants to talk about
are not the things that will make her life easier.
They're not conveniences.
They're the spiritual reality of her brokenness
and the condition of her her life.
And as we make that turn tomorrow,
obviously that is not going to go
where this woman anticipates it going.
And I think that's part of the power of this story, is
she thinks they're talking about one thing,
and she's about to find out that with Jesus,
that conversation is never on the surface.
It's never lighthearted.
There's always going to be something of depth and meaning and challenge to it.
Well, and I think that's perfectly encapsulated here in verse 14, Clint,
the idea that the water that I will give, Jesus says will become in them
a spring of water gushing up to eternal life.
So what is the eternal part of that of that telling?
Is it either that the water will eternally
be coming it's a never ending water supply?
Or is it something about the eternal life
which is to go beyond the the horizon of life that we see?
This woman is firmly caught in this earthly encounter
with this Jew, breaking all of these boundaries.
She's fixated on what's wrong
in this social encounter and in her fixation.
It seems clear that she's completely missing the revelation
of the God who's standing in front of her when he promises eternal life.
He's not promising water that bubbles up from Jacob's well for eternity.
It's not land locked to time in that way.
What he's promising is that if she might even partake of the
the water of his baptism, the waters of Christ,
then then she will experience a kind of life that knows no end, life
that she cannot, even in the midst of this conversation, comprehend,
because she can't get beyond the struggle and the blockage right in front of her.
And I do think a woman like this
is, if you
understand the context of this story, understandably struggling to understand
what's happening, what is amazing is that Jesus is not giving up on her
and the story.
We have more story to go.
There's more time that Jesus is going to invest in.
What this woman understands about what's happening here,
and if we, the reader, can stick with it along the way, I think we too are going to
to see some interesting things unfold as we go.
Yeah, I, I agree, I, I think that
the second half of this story deeply informs the first half.
And so it,
I hope you can be with us tomorrow as it sheds some light on
not only this woman's personal circumstance,
but more broadly, what it means to be thirsty
and what it means to be quenched, and what it means
that life would well up in us. And,
this woman,
on this unnamed day in the middle of the day at a place
she thought she was just going to go get water,
is going to be surprised what else she receives here.
I think that's a great segue.
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