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Hey everybody.

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Thanks for joining us.

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Welcome back.

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We're, wrapping up chapter 13 today.

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And given that it may be a week before
we're together again,

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we may hold off on 14.

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So we're just probably a quick study
today.

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Maybe a little bit of, reflection
on where we are so far in this gospel.

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But let me jump in here.

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We're at verse 36.

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A follow up conversation
where Jesus told the disciples

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that they have a new commandment
and that he is about to be glorified

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and that they cannot go where he's going.

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And Peter, who in the disciples
always has the role of kind of the

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the one who asks questions,

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he follows up with Jesus,
and which is what we read now.

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So Simon Peter said to him, Lord,
where are you going?

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Jesus answered, Where I'm going.

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You cannot follow me
now, but you will follow.

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Afterward Peter said to him, Lord,
why can I not follow you now?

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I will lay down my life for you.

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Jesus answered, Will you?

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Will you lay down your life for me?

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I tell you the truth.

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Before the rooster crows,
you will have denied me three times.

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A story that in all of the Gospels,

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the idea that Jesus is not only betrayed,
but he's denied.

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He's abandoned by the disciples.

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That ultimately,
when Jesus is on the cross, he is alone.

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He is forsake King.

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He he is, abandoned and left to his own.

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Here we have,

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I don't know, Michael.

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I feel like in many of those stories,
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as kind of overconfident.

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Here we have I think this is a toned down
version of it, you know,

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he says, I will lay down my life for you.

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And in other words, I love you.

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I'm willing to die for you.

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And that Jesus, you know, then predicts
this scene

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that we're well aware of in the Gospels
that before the morning,

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before the rooster Peter will have denied
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In John is a kind of a passing story.

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This story gets dug into more
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But John is

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kind of checking the boxes
as we move toward.

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And it's going to be a while now
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that are going to facilitate that.

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But here, again,
I think John is preparing us for the

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that moment
where Jesus really is by himself.

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He is alone in the fulfilling
of his, of his mission here.

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This is, interestingly connected text
to both what comes before and after.

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In some ways, I think it is a transition
text in the Gospel of John.

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It provides us with an opportunity to see

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what is the fallout that comes directly

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after Jesus's naming of his accuser.

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And what we had yesterday,
of course, was this admission that really

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that there's a lack of understanding,

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you know, we have this idea that,

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well, and really, that was that

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last study was the one before
where we were talking about how there's

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this question of, you know,
why is Judas leaving the room?

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Right?

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And what is this whole thing mean about
the person who's going to betray him?

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Then we have this teaching
that we just went

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through yesterday of the new commandment.

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We're talking a little bit about this idea
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the command
to call us to love one another.

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Now we skip forward to today.

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And I think what we see here is

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in some

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ways a just a tough transition piece
for Simon Peter says, where are you going?

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Where, where we haven't up to this point
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to think that Jesus
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But here we've got this transition
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then to see the question
that there is a going happening.

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Jesus is preparing to do a thing
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for this teaching.

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You cannot follow,
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And Peter, I think you're right to point
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Peter portrayed with hubris or arrogance,
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In this case,
there's no reason to think that,

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this is told in any way other than Peter
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Why can't we follow you?

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I'm truly here to be connected to you
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that great command to love one another,
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what could be a mountain

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top revelation experience
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that what's going to be followed
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is going to be not just betrayal,
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Jesus is not just going to be turned in,
but the people who have no part

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in turning him in are going to be
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back into the crowd and give people
and give Jesus up to the accusers.

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And I think, Clint,
that that's a very kind of sober

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and yet also a helpful way
of framing the story, because John helps

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us see that in the midst of both the
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also the amazing mountaintop of Jesus
revealing this, this commandment.

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Right? How will you know one
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And then now, as Peter follows
this up, will I, you know, essentially

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between the lines, I love you so much,
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Jesus is making clear
that no human love is going to be perfect.

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No human love will will go to the end
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There's some hope in that,
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right off the bat,
right off of the backside this commandment

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that Jesus knows that perfect
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is not going to happen, and he just brings
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I think in all the Gospels,
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simply cannot be fully known
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Who made the revelation of who Jesus is

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and what he does is a revelation

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that is confirmed and informed by Easter.

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there's no reason to think that Peter
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but it it's simply not a thing
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He just yeah,
he isn't able to understand and and in

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you know again you could read this
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I tell you the truth, before the rooster
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there could be compassion in that.

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you would lay down your life for me,
you know, before the morning.

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You're not even going that you're
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that idea of fear

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and loss and what it is going to do

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to the disciples
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and what that is going to do with them,
you know, you can't follow me now,

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but you will follow afterwards.

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That's the afterwards.

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There is a reference
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He just has used that language
being glorified.

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Peter's
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but empty and shallow and,

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you know, short sighted.

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And so I think this is a I think there's
a lot here for a short passage.

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I think maybe it's also a good time.

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Michael, to just since
we are going to have next week off.

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And then I think it makes some sense
to keep chapter 14 together.

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I think maybe this is a good

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opportunity to just pause and say,
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as we move to the end of the 13th chapter,

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which is also sort of a transition
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we now have a couple of chapters
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What have we learned?

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What has John told us about Jesus?

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And we start with
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And in the beginning was the word.

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We have word and light.

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Then we we've seen that confirmed by John
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We've seen Jesus perform signs.

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We know at this point, John, we've said
this John is keeping no secrets.

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Jesus is the Messiah, is
the Son of God, has now been betrayed.

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Or at least the
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This is a poignant moment

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in the gospel,
and I think John has equipped us,

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maybe more so than the other gospels.

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The way that John tells
the story is to tip his hand

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and we essentially,
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now we're going to learn some things
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But at this point, we know

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essentially everything we need to know

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to be ready
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Well, even if we didn't have chapter 14
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even if this is where the story ended,
I think you can see a kind of summation

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in the text that we have for today,
because Jesus is making it clear

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that he's going to go to a place
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And that's a really critical statement
that maybe it seems obvious,

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obvious to us, but ultimately,
Jesus is making it abundantly clear that

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what he is going to accomplish
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that other people with good intentions
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And the disciples
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They have been in Jesus's inner circle.

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They've seen the man who is blind
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They've seen the water turned into wine.

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They've seen the teaching
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They've seen Jesus at work
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even the chief leading voice amongst them,

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who pledges his love and loyalty to Jesus,

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these will not be able to do
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and John, like you say, has not hidden
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So therefore, what we see even now,
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what we see is that Jesus is representing
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theological word God in the world in such

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a way that what he can do is

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substantially different than what
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Jesus has to go first,
but don't miss the good news in that

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if Jesus chooses to go first
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then that opens the door
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And don't miss the power of Peter's
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Why can I not follow you now?

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And I submit to you that's a little bit

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of every Christians quandary,
even to this day, right?

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Oh, why can't we come now? What?

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Jesus? Why can't this be resolved?

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Because we're waiting.

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Because we are not the ones
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That that's Jesus and His prerogative.

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though, it's
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I think John here is trying to give us

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some narrative boundaries
in which to understand Jesus's teaching.

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I think that the the voice of Peter
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continues
to live in the heart of Christians today,

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as we want to sincerely love others
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we sincerely want to follow
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And yet we know how often
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or choosing the wrong path, or failing
in the moment when our faith gives out.

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And I just think that there's a beautiful
kind of once again, grace and the text.

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Like this. Clint.

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I'm not sure that I would have noticed it.

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My God,

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think of, you know, the idea of the 13th
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the 12th versus the 13th, possibly,

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But it's interesting if you look,

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if you look at the flow of the story

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from here on out, Jesus miracles are done.

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Jesus is not going to do another thing.

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He's not going to preach again.

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He's not going to argue
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There there is a sense where maybe
and maybe the right line

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is the 13th chapter versus the 14th.

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But there is a sense in which at the point
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this thing, these things, his work
kind of is done with the exception

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of remaining faithful
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But so many of the things
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half of this
gospel are really there now behind us.

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dialog and teaching and prayer
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before the authorities
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This is an internal transition
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the way that Jesus, that
John tells a story

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which has most of those things
far earlier, allows him

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to kind of draw a line there and say,
okay, now Jesus has done all that he's

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going to do in regard to preaching
and miracles and fighting with Pharisees.

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Now, what comes next?

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I think that's an interesting,

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aspect of this, of this gospel.

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Well, and don't forget that
where we are going to end here,

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today is actually in some ways a bookmark
to the end of this gospel clean.

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And we'll come back
and we'll remember to mention this moment.

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But it is striking
that Peter gets an opportunity

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to respond to this conversation about love
that he has with Jesus on this night

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later in the gospel, in fact,
the very end of the gospel, Peter

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is asked three questions by Jesus.

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And I think so
here Jesus is predicting a betrayal.

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And there's going to come a time
when Peter receives reconciliation

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for that betrayal.

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And this, in some ways, is the first word

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that sets off
how the gospel is going to end.

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I do think there's a moment here
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that Jesus's ministry,

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in a public sense, has concluded
all those things

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that, you name it,
now remains in the private sense.

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The disciples,

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the inner circle will still be taught
by Jesus and prayed for by Jesus.

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And then ultimate.

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When Jesus
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then following that,
his ministry will broaden out

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that to not just the inner circle,
not just to those people he's had conflict

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with in the end that, you know,
individual healings and the teachings.

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But it's going to be
the whole world would be cosmic, too.

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And I do think that
that flow in the stories on purpose.

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And I actually think
it helps us understand the extent to which

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Jesus Christ is the incarnate Son of God
is doing the work of God in the world.

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This is cosmic level stuff.

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And and yes, we see
it told in these individual stories,

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but there's always more beneath
the surface.

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Yeah, I like the way that John does this.

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It gives it a sense of immediacy.

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I'm going, I'm going somewhere
and you can't follow.

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And then he almost puts that on pause

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for a moment
as we get these coming up conversations

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about what it will mean to follow later
and what it will look like to be faithful.

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This, this is a really interesting moment
in the Gospel of John.

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So as has been alluded to a couple times
here, grateful for all of you

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